@gabyesola - jump
eh, not to get too deep in our issues but our body's family has not cared for their physical or mental health for GENERATIONS on both sides. as a result theres not many good role models, and i end up somewhat filling that role for Taylor unintentionally. as much as we both need therapy having someone else where its much easier to identify their good and bad behaviors is incredibly helpful, also just someone to be alot nicer when saying something is a bad idea
if you 2 are happy with your interactions, thats all that really matters
so, what do they think about you harming your relationships over them
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
admittedly, i know nothing about the person you are talking about, but when i see people harming their relationships with people over a headmate, i wish people wouldn't have to go through that
I think it depends on the context.
Not too long ago I was talking to the skeptic Drake was talking about in #lotpw , and things took an unexpected turn for me. The skeptic invited a friend to back them up, which didn’t work. Later the skeptic pings me saying I'm a cult leader and then leaves the server. After that, I find out their friend decided to be a tulpamancer and was worried about their relationship with their friend. I was worried I hurt their relationship, but someone else pointed out that odds were good the skeptic and that person would have parted ways over something else.
Sometimes people are just jerks
Well afaik I was talking about a person who saw tulpas and etc as people but considered them to be lower than people who can't dissipate to simplify it (shes a very direct and blunt person)
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
but calling someone who reacts in a way because of misunderstanding a jerk is a bit much
I think they were being a jerk because I had explained them stuff and empathized with them and they were still mean to their friend. They insulted their friend and rejected them
tbf i understand people who react negatively to plurality and i don't blame them, which is why my usual advice is to not come out as a plural person to non plural people lol
Well afaik I was talking about a person who saw tulpas and etc as people but considered them to be lower than people who can't dissipate to simplify it (shes a very direct and blunt person)
tbf i understand people who react negatively to plurality and i don't blame them, which is why my usual advice is to not come out as a plural person to non plural people lol
there is also another thing to what i'm saying, if someone is a bad friend then it's good to end relationship with them anyway, i'm talking about a situation when the friendship is good but your relationship with tulpa is harming the friendship
Which is worse because she also tried making tulpas before and she has a headmate which she considers a tool pretty much who she mentioned is depressed
tbf i understand people who react negatively to plurality and i don't blame them, which is why my usual advice is to not come out as a plural person to non plural people lol
Ah. I have the opinion I don’t care, I won't be happy if I can't let my freak flag fly. Tulpamancy is weird but I don’t hurt anyone with it
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
there is also another thing to what i'm saying, if someone is a bad friend then it's good to end relationship with them anyway, i'm talking about a situation when the friendship is good but your relationship with tulpa is harming the friendship
Even so, if someone tells you to stop doing something that's important to you or get rid of something important to you, that's overstepping a lot. It's not their place, and it can be very toxic(edited)
-you have a tulpa
-you have a friendship
-there are interactions you can have that would ruin the friendship because of your plurality
-there is no reason to even bring up plurality, which has a potential of ruining the friendship
-even if you come up to a friend about your tulpa, you should operate the friendship in a way that your plurality doesn't affect the friendship
4:24 PM
if tulpamancy harms your healthy friendships, something went wrong
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
there is also another thing to what i'm saying, if someone is a bad friend then it's good to end relationship with them anyway, i'm talking about a situation when the friendship is good but your relationship with tulpa is harming the friendship
I guess what I wonder is how many people would be good friends and reject you for having a tulpa? I feel like if you can't accept your friend's weirdness*, that says something not great about you as a person
edit: harmless weirdness, not harmful weirdness like being a racist(edited)
Yuka
Even so, if someone tells you to stop doing something that's important to you or get rid of something important to you, that's overstepping a lot. It's not their place, and it can be very toxic (edited)
so nothing that i talked about is putting any priority on your tulpa
4:25 PM
there are ways you can operate without considering priorities at all
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
-you have a tulpa
-you have a friendship
-there are interactions you can have that would ruin the friendship because of your plurality
-there is no reason to even bring up plurality, which has a potential of ruining the friendship
-even if you come up to a friend about your tulpa, you should operate the friendship in a way that your plurality doesn't affect the friendship
I guess what I wonder is how many people would be good friends and reject you for having a tulpa? I feel like if you can't accept your friend's weirdness*, that says something not great about you as a person edit: harmless weirdness, not harmful weirdness like being a racist
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
someone could be a good friend and be worried about if if they don't understand tulpamancy
i get worried about plural people because of the harmful patterns i see all the time
KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
I guess what I wonder is how many people would be good friends and reject you for having a tulpa? I feel like if you can't accept your friend's weirdness*, that says something not great about you as a person edit: harmless weirdness, not harmful weirdness like being a racist
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
someone could be a good friend and be worried about if if they don't understand tulpamancy
Even so, if someone tells you to stop doing something that's important to you or get rid of something important to you, that's overstepping a lot. It's not their place, and it can be very toxic (edited)
I guess what I wonder is how many people would be good friends and reject you for having a tulpa? I feel like if you can't accept your friend's weirdness*, that says something not great about you as a person edit: harmless weirdness, not harmful weirdness like being a racist
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
someone could be a good friend and be worried about if if they don't understand tulpamancy
@savedlatin - jump
things like self-guilt or self-hatred being expressed through a tulpa, how your relationshipsare being affected by the way you treat your tulpa and tulpamancy etc
4:28 PM
there are a lot of dynamics that can cause self inflicted problems
4:28 PM
and those problems can be avoided with a healthy mindset
Honestly for a lot of us we can't undo what has happened in the past and any "mistakes" that occured. Although we can learn to better ourselves for the best.(edited)
Sure, there's nothing wrong with that. But I don’t think you would dump your friend if you were worried about them
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
yeah as i said i know nothing about the friend, so i'm talking more in general, of course there can be toxic friends and that would show in other things beside tulpamancy
If I saw a plural system I thought was self-harming with plurality, I would want to encourage them to seek therapy but I would also respect their headmates. Even if I don't believe they're individual tulpas, I can still treat them like people as I would with any other non-plural person. I would still call them by name and such to build trust and with that earned trust I hope to encourage healthier mindsets
If I saw a plural system I thought was self-harming with plurality, I would want to encourage them to seek therapy but I would also respect their headmates. Even if I don't believe they're individual tulpas, I can still treat them like people as I would with any other non-plural person. I would still call them by name and such to build trust and with that earned trust I hope to encourage healthier mindsets
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
wasnt there someone who showed up like 2 weeks ago and we all begged them to not create a tulpa to verbally abuse them for "coping reasons"?
Yeah there is always a reason why this "Angry tulpa" might be the way they are besides being like this since its first moments.
Taygete
If I saw a plural system I thought was self-harming with plurality, I would want to encourage them to seek therapy but I would also respect their headmates. Even if I don't believe they're individual tulpas, I can still treat them like people as I would with any other non-plural person. I would still call them by name and such to build trust and with that earned trust I hope to encourage healthier mindsets
@A long kiss goodnight - jump
wasnt there someone who showed up like 2 weeks ago and we all begged them to not create a tulpa to verbally abuse them for "coping reasons"?
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